Carroll Howe

 When were you on the Crater Lake Natural History Association board? How did it operate at that time?

I can’t remember the years I was on the Crater Lake Natural History Association board. It’s probably in their records. I think they appointed me and I believe it was during the time that Jim Rouse was superintendent. I carried on until about five years ago. I had this heart surgery and I didn’t know how many years I had left. I figured I better concentrate on the things that I was trying to do rather than going to meetings, although I enjoyed my associations on the board.

Were most of the meetings in the park at that time?

Most of them were. We met once or twice at the college at Ashland. We met once at the Shaw Library here (7). But most of the meetings were in the park. It was kind of a nice occasion to get together.

You mentioned that you were on the Lava Beds board. Was there anyone else that also had an overlap between the two boards?

No, I don’t think so. I was on that board first. They used to ask me to go down and put on a program to orient their summer people. I had slide programs. They called it a VIP program, Volunteers in Parks, or something like that. I went down at least three or four different years and showed them this slide program. I think that was before the amateur archaeologist got such a bad reputation as a vandal. I’m not sure why they discontinued the program. I always had a fine relationship with Gary Hathway (8). I gave him various stuff, and I gave the park the Howard pictures. I talked another fellow out of them. I would like to see a monument. I have a little money that I would be willing to put together to see a monument or a memorial of some kind for Judd Howard.

Yes, I’ve never seen anything, at least my trips down there that mentioned him.

I think Doris Bowen told me that they don’t allow memorials any more (9).

There are guidelines. The thing can be restrictive, but there are ways of doing that.

I could get volunteers to go down and build a native stone pyramid and get a brass plate made dedicated to the memory of Judd Howard. It wouldn’t disturb the natural…and we could put it near this old cave that… he lived in a cave down there a lot of the time.