Francis G. Lange

Were you there generally most of the summer supervising?

Oh yeah, I was there from April to October every year.

And then in the winter time you’d be…?

San Francisco.

So, how much time did you spend at the Caves doing that project?

Oh, I’d go in during the summer months whenever I had to.  We had spike camps over there at ORCA. And then, in the winter time, the camp that was at CRLA some of it moved down to ORCA.  I think some of it went over to Lave Beds.

So you split the camps? 

I think there were 200 men in the camp, I’m not sure

Because the yearbooks I’ve seen from that time, they list a camp Lava Beds and a camp ORCA, but they don’t talk about CRLA. 

No, there was no camp there in the winter months.

So, where were the camps at ORCA?  

They were down from ORCA. Oh, down about two miles down, at a camp site in there.

Oh, that Cave Creek campground maybe?

In there, yes.

What about that Grayback campground now that’s about eight miles down. They never had a camp there.

Is there a river creek that goes through it?

Yes.

What’s the other camp? How far is the other camp away?

It’s about eight miles or so. Mile post 12 is at Grayback, and then it’s 20 miles. 

What’s the bigger of the 2 areas?