Larry Smith

He’s the Management Assistant.

Oh, is that what he is?

I wonder if Lava Beds had difficulties.

It never really left San Francisco (58). I think it was still being pulled toward San Francisco and the cluster office was trying to operate it. Crater Lake and Oregon Caves were always together.

Ever since the Park Service got the caves.

It pulled away, then it came back (59). Isn’t it under the Superintendent of Crater Lake now?

It is.

It is now?

Yes, with a district ranger at Oregon Caves.

So there’s no Superintendent down there anymore? Was Miele the last Superintendent? What Lloyd and I, and all these old timers keep talking about, is if you’ve seen them once, you can see it again. This is the way Oregon Caves was operated for so many years. Now it’s back under the Superintendent of Crater Lake again. When I first started at Crater Lake that was just normal. It was an extension of Crater Lake. And we saw all those guys. They’d come up for the training. Then a new concessionaire bought out the Chateau and we started seeing them less and less (60).

When Canteen got both operations, there was some interchange of management personnel.

Some of them went from Peyton’s operation and went down there. In fact, Linda [Manning], who’s running the Lodge, came out of Oregon Caves. Chas [Davis] came out of Oregon Caves. I think he’s back at Oregon Caves now.

Glenn Happel was at the Lodge for years and years. I don’t know too much about him.

There’s a real source of information, 25 years. I was at his retirement party. Jim Rouse made sure I got up and gave a speech. He engineered the retirement party for Happel. He and Happel hit it off really well. They had a good relationship. After Peyton left Happel basically became the manager of the whole operation. It was nice to see him retire in glory because he was a maintenance man for so many years and drove up from Ashland.