Wayne Howe – Part Two

Jean: Mostly because of Gilbert, I think. 

Yeah, it was mostly because of Gilbert. It was just, it was getting so rotten that it was really a tough place to work. And of course it was known all over this area up here. I don’t know if the people in Medford knew what all was going on but everybody was a close knit group and everybody knew what was going on here. And they knew that he was not doing anything and they knew what his carrying ones were and they were just plain disgusted with it. Now fortunately, after they got rid of Gilbert, Lou Hallock came in. Lou came here from Lassen, I think. I think he was the district ranger and it was just like a breath of fresh air. We started having square dances. We used to square dance in this building, the Administration Building. The back room there was the chief clerk’s, it was the clerk’s office and the chief clerk was at the far end there.

Jean: Big room on the first floor. 

Is it that same open area that’s there now?  

Yeah. It seemed like it was twice as big in those days. But we had two squares in there. And we’d put kids to sleep in the superintendent’s office, which was in the southeast corner over there.

First floor, instead of second, where it is now. 

And it was carpeted, it was the only room in the place that I think was carpeted, and we probably had about a half a dozen kids sleeping in there while we were square dancing.

Jean: [Lee] Sneddon came within about another two months. 

Lee was a District ranger down in Lake Texome which is in Texas. It was one of the first recreation areas, and it folded up and went over to the Forest Service or the state, I don’t remember which. And so they were finding spots. John Rutter, who was my Regional Director up in Seattle, was down there, as were several other old timers.