Albert Hackert and Otto Heckert

Did you have problems sometimes grading, hitting old stumps that would have been in the roadway?  

Oh, not really. Most of the time, if you were working an area, you had first to clean that all out by going around two or three times to remove any rocks sticking up or anything down. (OH)

I had one of them slip scrapers for a long time and I can’t remember what I ever did with it. I think I gave it away. But a lot of people would like to have something like that to keep. (AH)

There’s another snow picture. All these bear pictures are at Crater Lake. These other are some hunting trips we made after we came down from the lake. (OH)

Is that Gold Ray Dam or Savage Rapids?  

This is the Gold Ray Dam right down here at Tolo. There’s a picture of Albert and me and his first car.

Did either one of you do much skiing when you were up there?  

Never. Tried one time. (AH)

How’d that turn out?  

You could ski out to Klamath. So we borrowed these skis and went across the road from where we bunked on that slope and came down on these skis. We hit the road and went into a ditch. That was the last of my skiing. (AH)

There’s one picture in here of somebody skiing down a hill, maybe right around Government Camp. 

I don’t know. We’ll give it [the album] to Albert. We got plenty left in here. I think they’re just duplicates. Probably have more. I was heading back to the bunkhouse there. Here’s what made me thin of it up here…there’s a bear standing on top of it. They’d have the carpenters rebuild that garbage sled. It was about three feet wide and probably four feet long, as I remember. And about three feet deep. They’d dump cans and waste from the cook shack in there, and then we’d haul it down there to the garbage dump, clean it out, and bring it back. That’s the way they handled the garbage. What the bears didn’t eat, well, we’d have to haul off. But they’d get up on top of that and they could take one foot and put one front against the corner of that crib you might call it, that box with the upright pieces in the corner, and they’d use a six-inch spike to nail them in the corners there and make a regular solid box out of it. Those bears would just take one foot and put across there and pull the sides off of there. So a bear would never want to put his head down in anything to eat. They want everything on the level so they could watch. They’d just pull the top off that thing with brute strength. I tell you there is no limit to the power they have in their shoulders. I’d always say I’d never wrestle a bear.