John Eliot Allen

That was the record year, 1983.

I called on all employees to help us that Easter. We had our crews out and people on the roofs shoveling snow. The sun was out, but here we were shoveling frantically when people elsewhere were picking up Easter eggs. What an experience!

You also asked if Jarvis or Forbes had any difficulty integrating with the protection rangers. Both of them had been rangers, and I tried to foster rangers being resource management oriented too. They worked together hand in glove.

 Did you attend those early meetings for the lake project? I know some of them took place in Corvallis.

Yes! In fact I had them out to my house. See, I had a home in Corvallis (47). Yes, we had people there from a number of institutions. It was a very good meeting. We were getting things started, so I attended. I can’t remember who initiated it, but it was something that we felt would be essential to the research program having credibility (48).

Were there problems with Oregon State having been selected as sort of a host institution? I knew Doug Larson lost out as principal investigator to Gary Larson.

The news media somehow got a hold of Doug. He suggested that there might be pollution from the sewage lagoon below headquarters. The news media contacted me and I tried to explain the situation. I was convinced that this was not the case. Well, the reporters didn’t stop at that. They went back to Doug and said that the superintendent doesn’t agree. He came back with something like that is a crock of  baloney. Forbes might have come in my office when I was getting a call from one of  these reporters and I said, “Well, you can contact USGS if you want to. I’m not disputing what Mr. Larson with might be, but I’m soundly convinced otherwise.”  At any rate, Doug had done some very good research, but it wasn’t in the same direction that we were going in the ten year program. He probably felt like he was left out. I remember a meeting with Jim Larson. We felt that the way Doug was oriented was not the course we believed was needed for Crater Lake.